Causatives et permissives

[MystOGriff]

Hi there !

En ce début de semaine, je viens vous proposer une petite révision toute simple !

CORRECTION : MARDI 26 JUIN 2007
il s'agit ici de compléter les phrases suivantes en choisissant parmi les mots (ou groupes de mots) donnés :

1. - The answer is no!!! I'll never marry you !
- Please Marcy, I beg you --------.
(think it over - thinking it over - to think it over)
2. - Hi Tom. We'd like ----------- in this year's tennis tournament.
- My coach wants -------- in it, but I'd rather watch.
(you participate - me be - me to be - you to participate - I will be)
3. - Would you like your steack ------ rare, medium or well-done ?
(cooking - cook - cooked - cooks - to cook)
4. The boss said he wanted the report ------- and on his desk by wednesday.
(to finish - has finished - finish - finished)
5. - Let me know when you want dinner -----. It's ready anytime.
(serving- served - serves - I'll serve - to serve)
6. - You car looks great, Tom.
- Thanks. I just ---------.
( had washed it - had to wash - have had it washed - to wash it)


A vous de jouer, mes amis !

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[Amina1986]

Hello there
answers

1-The answer is no!!!i'll never marry you !
-please Marcy,i beg you to think it over

2-Hi Tom We'd like you to participate in this year tennis tournament.
-My coatch wants me to be in it,but i'd rather watch.


3-Would like your steak cooking rare,medium or well-done?

4-The boss said he wants the report finished and on his desk by wednsday.

5-Let me now when you want dinner to serve.It's ready any time

6-Your car looks great,Tom
-thanks.I just have had it washed.

there is any rule or lessen that speak about how to choose the write
tense

Thanks a lot
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[MystOGriff]

Hi Amina and everybody !!!!

To answer your question, we don't have any specific lesson on these subjects on our site : "causative clauses" and "permissive clauses".

However, here is a link : http://www.englishpage.com/minitutorials/let.html

I do hope it will be of a little help for you, because your answers are quite good, generally speaking !

See youuuuu !

MystO'Griff
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[Amina1986]

Hello there

thanks a lot MystoGif

I will visit it, thanks again


Bye
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[Amina1986]

Salut Mystogriff et tous le monde:D

je me permet cette fois ci d'ecrire en français

meme si je ne la métrise pas bien

mais avec vous je pense que je vais apprendre les deux langues

j'ai visité le lien,j'ai lu le "tutorial" et j'ai fait l'exercice;

j'ai eu un score de 65% j'ai essayé de me corriger jusqu'a ce que j'ai obtenu 100%
Le problème c'est lorsque je lis la phrase je la comprent d'une maniere,exemple:
-Susie.......her son take out the trash before he went to the parck to play soccer.

j'ai choisis "Made" mais la réponse est"had"

pouvez vous me dir comment pourrai-je analyser les phrases pour choisire la bonne réponse

Thanks a lot

bye
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[MystOGriff]

Hello Amina !

Dis-moi, Amina, pour une débutante que tu nous avais dit être, ton résultat de 65 % est fort honorable ! Ton niveau est déjà très bon, c’est certain.

Bien, reprenons la phrase qui te pose question :
"Susie HAD her son take out the trash before he went to the parck to play soccer. "
Pourquoi « had » et non « made » ?

Je te demande de bien vouloir retourner sur le tutorial don’t je t’ai donné le lien et de bien relire les utilisations de « make » et de « have ».
Tu verras qu’avec l’emploi de « have », on donne à quelqu’un la responsabilité de faire quelque chose, alors que la construction avec « make » il y a plus la notion de « forcer quelqu’un à faire quelque chose ».
Ceci dit, ce point est délicat, sans contexte, car tu as raison, Susie aurait pu « forcer » son fils à sortir les poubelles et nous aurions « had » comme tu l’as proposé.
Ici, apparemment, elle lui donne la responsabilité de le faire.
Est-ce un peu plus clair ?
Ne t’inquiète pas, c’est avec la pratique que l’on s’améliore !
A très bientôt, je te souhaite un très bon weekend,

MystO'Griff
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[MystOGriff]

Hi !

Nous voici mardi et je vois que seule notre amie Amina est venue travailler....
Vous n'allez pas la laisser toute seule, quand même !
Je reporte donc ma correction, mais..... je ne l'oublie pas !!!!

MystO'Griff
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[Fame]

Hi

I promise to do it ASAP
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[Fame]

Here am I dear Mysto

1. - The answer is no!!! I'll never marry you !
- Please Marcy, I beg you to think it over.

2. - Hi Tom. We'd like you to participate in this year's tennis tournament.
- My coach wants me to be in it, but I'd rather watch.

3. - Would you like your steack cooking rare, medium or well-done ?

4. The boss said he wanted the report finished and on his desk by wednesday.

5. - Let me know when you want dinner to serve . It's ready anytime.

6. - You car looks great, Tom.
Thanks. I 've just washed it . sorry,mais aucune des propositions ne m'inspirait

I'm sure that's full of mistakes
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[MystOGriff]

Hi there !

Eh bien voilà, c'est fait et..... point tant de fautes que cela, my dear Fame !
Voici donc la correction :

1. - The answer is no!!! I'll never marry you !
- Please Marcy, I beg you to think it over.
2. - Hi Tom. We'd like you to participate in this year's tennis tournament.
- My coach wants me to be in it, but I'd rather watch.
3. - Would you like your steack cooked rare, medium or well-done ?
4. The boss said he wanted the report finished and on his desk by wednesday.
5. - Let me know when you want dinner served. It's ready anytime.
6. - You car looks great, Tom.
- Thanks. I have just had it washed. or Am. English : I just have had it washed.

Pour la phrase numéro 6, notre amie Fame s'en est bien sortie, c'est une phrase correcte, le seul problème est que le sujet de l'exercice impliquait une autre construction !

MystO'Griff
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[Fame]

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